How Africans Got Over: My Response to Eddie Griffin's Comment of "How the 60's Messed People Up"

  • Kioni Yakeeni Well there were white people in those marches as well as SNCChttp://www.ibiblio.org/sncc/ as well as the Freedom Riders, again in which white people died. It was a white abolitionist, John Brown, who started the Civil War and many whites who aided with the underground rail road...The singing was to uplift our spirits as people placed their bodies on the line being attacked by dogs and waters hoses, not mention the 4 Little girls that got bombed and killed. Emmett Till wasn't marching when he whistled at a white woman paying with his life for this innocuous gesture.. Finally FREEDOM IS A STATE OF BEING-a state a mind can be changed with truth is brought to bear-which I hope all reading my response will gain. And I say the aforementioned items knowing that White Supremacy still prevails in this land and abroad. However I can no longer abide by MY PEOPLE running down OUR legacy to make an undermining, cheap remark. So Mr. Griffin, though a fan, this comment, which I sincerely hope was taken out of context, was an EPIC FAIL...
  • Pamala Brooks The original statement was taken a bit out of context, but I agree with him to a degree. He is not speaking against the white people that assisted in the areas in which you mentioned. He is speaking of the fact that we as a people are conditioned to ask the oppressor to free us. As such, our idea of freedom is a bit distorted. We confuse the state of freedom with acceptance by the oppressor and other groups. That acceptance is mostly social in nature, which is then interpreted to mean that we are free because we can now do the same things that they do....or we can now force them to accept us into their circle so we can do things with them. Its like asking the teacher to force the other kids to play with you. Our people have been conditioned to look to government for instance to provide freedoms, rights, and liberties that we already have...Look at the black panther movement....they built their own schools, policed their own communities, and took care of their own without outside involvement....look back before that to communities like Black Wall Street in Tulsa, OK. This was a black community that was completely self sufficient with no outside involvement from whites (or anyone else for that matter) and flourished until the others stepped in and destroyed all that we had built. We need to stick together as a people and build ourselves and our community up without the assistance from outsiders who do not understand our struggle. People can attempt to empathize as a fellow human being, but they do not truly understand. I think the main point is that once we start to seek help from others, we begin to shift the focus from our needs to then include the needs of others. This in essence takes away from our initial goal of improving our condition as a people. Unfortunately, this is what happened with the civil rights movement lead by MLK...We began including others, and now we have no civil rights exclusive to black people. Civil rights has become human rights, and now everyone can benefit from something we started for ourselves. Our position within society has not changed, while others can now claim "civil rights" or "human rights" as a way to better their position. I think Eddie Griffin is trying to say that we need to get mad and do something, not just march and ask for help. We need to stand up and act on our own.
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  • Greetings Family,

The above comes from a Facebook conversation I had with my sister, Pam, regarding the Eddie Griffin comment listed at the beginning of this post.  Immediately following is my response to Mr. Griffin's remark.  Pam then responded to me which follows my comment.  However given my sister's eloquent response, I found I needed space, thus the reason for this blog.  This is the first of seven parts…..

Part 1

Greetings Pam, 

I had to take blocks of your statement to address them here fully:

Pam’s take:  He is not speaking against the white people that assisted in the areas in which you mentioned. He is speaking of the fact that we as a people are conditioned to ask the oppressor to free us.


Kioni’s takeI agree there has been a mental “conditioning” which has been invoked since we have been captured (and from this point on I will refer to us, the African prior to the Emancipation as Captives not “slaves”) and brought here.  In the Willie Lynch letter, he spoke of how to subjugate the African in order to keep our people in captivity.  “Problem” was, the African did not fully believe nor truly accept the European’s edicts of inferiority-thus countless run-a-way captives as well as “laws” and “science” that erupted to rationalize the African’s refusal to be oppressed.  Stories of Br'er Rabbit, songs in the church, were often laden with coded messages of either revoke, which there were many despite the European attempt to conceal this truth by omitting it from history books, or meeting times away from the Overseer’s presence or even confirmations when the African was planning to leave, not to mention the endless jokes that were constantly made without “Massah’ even knowing he was the brunt of them.  And do you really think all the food that was served the Master and his family, guests and friend did not have something extra added to the seasonings.  There is a scene in the movie “The Help” were one of the maids, Minnie, baked her feces in a pie then brought it to the white woman who had black balled her.  Minnie watched as the white woman took the first bite with a non-nonchalant look on her face.  The woman, on the other hand, marveled as her expressing conveyed her arrogance that Minnie had to humble herself to make the pie, thus re-establishing the white woman's dominance of her "uppity" black maid.  It was only after the third or fourth bite, that Minnie revealed her “special” ingredient-and that was not the FIRST time such an event happened. Yet European  attitude of "superiority" KNEW, “They would NEVER do such a thing”-and you know what they say about assuming. 

Yet in spite of efforts to keep the African apart, it was against the law for two or more black people could not meet, word still got through.  Case and point Nat Turner, Denmark Vesey not to mention Gabrial Posser rebellions still occurred, see Captive's Rebellions and not only here but abroad Caribbean Rebellions with the most famous being Haitian Revolution lead by Toussiant Louverture included here with a list of other Captive revolts , see Seven Famous Captive Revolts. I cite the aforementioned information to illustrate African’s never “asked” for anything including their a.k.a our freedom. 

However the “conditioning” really is the mental, spiritual and cultural genocide we were forced to endure thus domesticating some of us into complicity i.e. the African began to believe he/she had to prove something to our Captor. The failure of the Denmark Vesey Revolt was because a House Captive betrayed him.  Also due to the success of the Willie Lynch letter and other methods like it not to mention the “laws” used to enforce this racial servitude, after years and years and years of this psychological whipping it bore into our very cells withstanding every day, all day, dust to dawn and back again, “You’re NOTHING, NO ONE, NO THING, 3/5 A MAN-chattel to be raped, sodomized and abused at the whim of the person, who thinks he owns you-because he “brought” you.   This is where the seeds of White Supremacy were planted and has flourished into people of color buying into the consumerism, straight hair, “fair” skin, “lean” body-when it was that black body that literal kept the European alive.  

So again we did not “ask” for this, this is, was and still being done to us through a system now call Institutionalized Racism that is so insidious it has got Eddie Griffin citing the "commentary on the 60's" when we DID fight back a.k.a marched, actin like it did not mean a thing, no thing like we were and in some circles today, still thought of. White Supremacy smiled that day with Mr. Griffin's verbiage, not doubt feeling, our work here-done-brainwashing complete because this Captive, Mr. Griffin, does not even realize the black bodies that died hanging from trees, burned beyond recognition, provided him the catalyst to stand stage which he now uses to disrespect our Ancestor’s, some of which are at the bottom of the sea, to quipped, “When black people get mad they start singing and dancing”.  To which I answer him, “Negro please!”
Captive's Revolt from Howard Zinn's, "A People's History of the United States"


Part 2 tomorrow...


Blessings of Peace,

Kioni

Here's some off the "singing" that went along with the marching Mr. Griffin quipped about. Mahalia Jackson's, "How I Got Over"




Further reading:

Denmark Vesey
Harriett Tubman
American Uprising
The Great African Slave Revolt of 1825 
Black Rebellion: Eyewitness Accounts of Major slave Revolts
A People's History of the United States
Power Systems

Comments

  1. Kioni, your article is very insightful and informative. I agreed with you 100% up until we got back to Eddie Griffin. The thing that makes this difficult is that we are simply working from a brief comment that has not been completely explained. It actually goes much deeper than what is seen on the surface, as Mr. Griffin did thoroughly explain himself during the stand up special in which this except was pulled.

    It may surprise you to know that Mr. Griffin is actually very conscious and in tune with his African Heritage. I have posted a link on my Facebook page for you to view when you have the time. It may surprise you how real and raw Mr. Griffin actually spits knowledge while skillfully intermingling a few relevant jokes. I hope you take a look at the link, as I did not want to disrespect your blog with his colorful stand-up.

    With that said, I must respectfully disagree with your statement that Mr. Griffin is unaware of the African sacrifice during the civil rights struggle. The so-called right to (limited) freedom of speech was implemented in the United States Constitution long before people marched in the streets during the 60's....

    The whole point, without disrespecting those who suffered and died, is that marching ultimately resulted in the guarantee of certain rights for others, i.e. the civil rights act of 1964 http://www.archives.gov/education/lessons/civil-rights-act/ ...

    The reason we do not include others is to prevent their wants and needs from superseding our own. For instance, Racial discrimination was no longer the main focus. The cause then began to include gender, religion, sexual orientation, and so on. It is not a bad thing that these and other rights were included, however, we as a people do not have any legislation on the books as it refers to displaced African people.

    From that point on, it became clear that the only way displaced African people could obtain any sort of rights or freedoms, we must include others in our cause so they can share in our spoils. This is to keep us separate, as you've mentioned so eloquently. We must remain separate in order for the structure of superiority to hold firm.

    People also tend to hail the 13th amendment to the Constitution as pro African freedom. Sadly, this is not so, as it has been interpreted over the years to have abolished slavery. The 13th Amendment only abolishes privatized slavery, i.e. people cannot have personal slaves. This law in fact places the right to implement slave labor as punishment and is solely regulated by the U.S. congress. This is the reason so many African males are funneled through the prison system.

    In referring back to segregation, it is my belief that segregation would not have been a bad thing if it had been handled properly, as Black Wall Street or Little Africa had proven. We need to support our own, manage our own, and protect our own in order to thrive as a people. We would embrace our culture instead of desperately seeking approval from the white man.

    I do not believe that Eddie Griffin was disrespectful in his comment. I do agree that we need to get angry and make our presence felt. While we marched, they did not fear us because we did not fight back. We were openly displaying non-violent resistance, yet were still met with violence. I am more partial to Malcolm X in that we must defend ourselves and our loved ones "by any means necessary."

    I will close here, because I know my thoughts are kind of all over the place lol. Thank you for providing a forum to express our thoughts....

    Much love Kioni and I will be back soon.....

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